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Re: [MPlayer-users] Re: which deinterlace filter


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Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] Re: which deinterlace filter
From: rcooley <rcooley@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:56:39 -0700
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[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:38:55 +0200
Andreu Escudero <lemon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well, not really, but the fact that 2:3 pulldown must be done to view
> a 24FPS film on a 60fPS/30FPS screen is much more annoying than the 4%
> speed increase.
I have to disagree there.  I find that 4% difference to be a problem. 
Speeding-up changes the pitch of the sound as well as the action of the
video. It's annoying with speech, and intolerable with music.

> Anyway, the best option for film viewing is actually a PAL DVD slowed
> down to 24FPS, then you have the higher resolution from PAL  with the
The higher resolution from PAL is a non-issue with (widescreen) DVDs. 
With NTSC, you could use as much as 480 lines, and just use the aspect
to stretch it to widescreen.  I don't suppose you've ever seen a
widescreen DVD that uses more than 480 lines?

> cinema timing, and with a real progressive image, without all the
> pullup complications (hard pulldowned NTSC DVDs are a nightmare
> sometimes).
Yes, but just about all NTSC DVDs are already progressive, (in real
time, with 23.976 fps).  The only time you really see non-progressive
DVDs, is for TV shows, which use NTSC cameras.  So not much advantage
to using PAL there.

> I hope anyway that when the HDTV really arrives, a standard would be
> chosen able to function both in NTSC and PAL land.
I agree completely.  The update to HDTV will be such an improvement, in
many ways.  Networks are certainly taking their sweet time switching
over their broadcasts, though.

> Anyway, as I'm able (like everything in this list) to watch both NTSC
> and PAL, I think we can stop talking about the upsides/downsides of
> each system.
Good idea.  Clogged up enough mail-boxes on this, haven't we?

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